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Info-Mac Digest             Wed, 24 Mar 93       Volume 11 : Issue 65

Today's Topics:

      !@#$% Extensions.
      (Q) Spanish translation program?
      040 vs. 486 (c)
      600 DPI and Pagemaker
      [A] AutoDoubler 2.0
      Anyone replaced the 68LC040 with 68040?
      Apple RGB black isn't black anymore
      AppleSearch (Q)
      ASCII/BINARY __hqx transfers (Q)
      Bernoulli compatibility
      CD-Rom driver upgrade
      Color and Hypercard (R)
      Cricket Graph/HP Deskwriter crash!?
      Cross-linked files
      data thief and digigraph
      DiskCopy images vs. folders [R]
      Emailing software orders from Europe--UPDATE
      Equipment advice
      European pricing
      FaxSTF - Powerbook problem
      Full Impact macro question
      Gopher Address for Info-Mac Archives
      How long will Apple still offer the IIci->Q700 upgrade (Q)
      How to make robotic voice? (Q)
      HP4M v LaserWriter 630 (again-Q)
      HP 550C / Frame Font Problems (Q)
      HP LaserJet 4M vs. Apple LaserWriter Pro 600/630
      icon lock and resize (Q)
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #64
      InfoWorld Mac Bashing
      Large text files (C)
      Laserwriter flashing light error codes
      Mac Fax/Modems
      Maps on CD Rom
      More and more for Mac ...
      Murph's vaporware revisited ?
      New Word Game
      PMI
      PRAM Zapping in System 7.x (R)
      Pro-cite -> other database?
      Sales tax.
      Simulation software sought
      Stolen serial numbers...
      SuperPaint & 68040 caches
      supress header
      Sys 6.08L location
      System 6.0.8L
      Toshiba 3201 CD-ROM
      Voice Navigator
      WordFinder fix for 4.0
      Zapping PRAM in system 7

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 21:26:25 -0500
From: Gary Goldberg <[e-mail]>
Subject: !@#$% Extensions.

What is not mentioned in all this talk about maximum extensionage is how
many of the damned things are not an option. I do multimedia on my 20MB
IIcx and all these extensions are REQUIRED: QuickTime 1.5, the MacRecorder
driver, the (3) RasterOps extensions for my video board, Mode32 or the
32bit enabler and the Apple CD-ROM/Spped Switch extensions (for the CD300).
Oh yeah, the MIDI Manager for my sound module, ATM for font matching screen
to printer, extensions for my Global Village modem ...

I get random crashes when doing fills or imports in SuperPaint 3.0 that
no shareware or freebie init has touched. I would give up every
extension to not have crashes in the middle of important work. In fact, I
have a dozen commercial products I don't use because I can't stand inits -
Talking Moose 4.02, Stuffit SpaceSaver 1.04, Magic Menu 3.05, HandsOff II
2.2.6, etc. etc. etc. ALL of these are the absolute latest in commercial
products and they won't get along consistantly. Sigh.

[Flame off.] - Gary

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 8:59:01 GMT
From: P Browning <[e-mail]>
Subject: (Q) Spanish translation program?

We have a Spanish-speaking sabbatical visitor to our department.
She was enquiring about the availability of English<->Spanish
translation programs.

I'd be pleased to hear from anyone who has experience or knowledge
of such a product.

Paul Browning
Dept of Geology
Univ. of Bristol, UK

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 18:29:25 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: 040 vs. 486 (c)

If you think the irrepressible, incredible '040 vs 486 (also
Windows/DOS vs Mac) performance debate is fun, wait until this time
next year.  I expect the WinNT (on a Pentium/Alpha) vs PowerPC
debates to be hilarious.  The developers on both sides of the current
debate have been maneuvering to steal the other guy's argument next
time around, and I expect to enjoy using the PowerPC/PowerOpen "it's
faster, cheaper & gives you more control" argument against the WinNT
crowd. Let them try to make the "it's more expensive & slower, but
it's intrinsically nicer" argument work against a PowerPC running
MacOS, UNIX, & OS/2 simultaneously.

Of course, some shlockhouse clone manufacturer might just shoehorn a
Pentium chip into an ISA bus machine and sell it cheaper than a
PowerPC, but nobody's going to fall for that this time, will they?

Steve Wall

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 21:47 EDT
From: Alex Leary <[e-mail]>
Subject: 600 DPI and Pagemaker

Sorry to all of those who are  offended by the nature of this request.
I publish a underground newspaper at my high school and lay it out
with Pagemaker. I print it on a laser (llntx?) and the quality is good
but not what it should be. I was wondering if anyone uses both Pgmkr
and a 600 dpi professional laser? Would it be possible for me to send
the Pgmkr file an a floppy and have you print it(just once) and mail
it back? I would provide all mailing expenses.
Thanks
learyj@snycorva

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 12:06:03 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Martin Rickli)
Subject: [A] AutoDoubler 2.0

Hi all,

Thanks to all for sending help regarding my AutoDoubler update problem.

As it seems you have to purchase the update from Fith Generation. It was
said to be worth the money, so I ordered a copy yesterday. I cannot tell
you how much $$$, but living in Switzerland this wouldn't be very
interesting...

Keep mailing ;-)
Martin Rickli
Automatic Control Laboratory
ETH Zurich, Switzerland           Internet :   [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 19:43:02 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Anyone replaced the 68LC040 with 68040?

Netters,

Has anyone with a Centris 610 actually replaced the 68LC040 chip with
the FPU version?  If so, what has been your experience?

Also, what is the current price of a single 68040 and what would be a
good source?

David Van Nuys

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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 16:05:06 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Karl Pottie)
Subject: Apple RGB black isn't black anymore

I recently noticed that when my my Apple 13" RGB monitor displays a fully
black screen (e.g. screensaver), the black isn't really black but a kind of
dark-blue, which can easily distinguished from the black border round the
screen.

Is this caused by the monitor or the computer video circuits ? Can anything
be done about it? Should I worry ?

[e-mail]

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Date: 24 Mar 93 07:51 EST
From: [e-mail] (Mark Zimmermann)
Subject: AppleSearch (Q)

wire service items I've seen mention that Apple is introducing a
large-scale text search facility, "AppleSearch" --- could anybody
provide (a pointer to?) more technical data on this?  Many tnx!  ^z
 ------

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 01:59:42 -0500
From: Bob Kerns <[e-mail]>
Subject: ASCII/BINARY __hqx transfers (Q)

    Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 14:20:12 MEZ
    From: David Steiner <[e-mail]>
    This is all well and good, but I download hqx files every day (just about)
    using binary mode. In fact, for me, that is the only way it will work.
    This
    is due to the fact that there is no direct link between my ftp machine and
    my Mac. If I transfer the hqx files as ascii, the IBM mainframe dutifully
    converts everything to EBCDIC. Then, when I bring the files to the local
    PC,
    everything gets garbled no matter if I use binary or ascii mode for the
    second download. If I do binary ftp and binary transfer to the PC all is
    good
    in the world.

So far, so good.  Then, when you transfer from the PC to the Mac,
you use ASCII, all will be fine with the world.

    The above process made sense to me since, despite the fact that ascii is
    human readable (or at least printable), it is still a string of bits. If
    the entire process is conducted in binary, the file should still end up as
    an ascii file.

The only difference in the *content* of the file will probably be
how newlines are handled.  Some systems want just a 0x0a byte,
others want 0x0f 0x0a, etc.  Any decent hqx decoding program isn't
going to care about these differences.

However, Mac files also have file types.  Files containing text are
of type TEXT.  Binary files will be of some other type, but the programs
which accept binhex files expect only type TEXT.

Solution:  Transfer them as text, at least at the last stage of
transfering them to the Mac.

    The only thing that I can think of is that it has something to do with the
    way the Mac interprets ascii. So, anyone out there want to enlighten this
    confused soul?

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 12:52:37 EST
From: Randy Patton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Bernoulli compatibility

I'm sure this is a FAQ, but I need a quick primer on the differences
between the various capacities of Bernoulli cartridges available these
days.  Can a higher-capacity drive read and write to lower-capacity
cartridges (e.g. a 90mb drive reading and writing a 45mb cartridge) or
is each type of drive limited to one size cartridge like most Syquest
removables are?

Replies by e-mail are encouraged.  Thanks in advance!

H. Randy Patton, Virginia Tech English Department Technical Coordinator
[e-mail]    pattonr@vtvm1 (BITNET)

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 17:17:26 +0000
From: [e-mail] (Henry Rzepa) (Henry Rzepa)
Subject: CD-Rom driver upgrade

Having a IIvx, I tried loading the 4.02 CD-ROM drivers. The system
resolutely refuses to mount any CD I put inside. Worse, I have to
get the thing out with a paper clip. Reverting to version 4.0 of the
driver resumes normal operation. Anyone else with this experience?
I have implemented the Hardware System Update 1.0 installer,
together with 1.01 of the system enabler on the vx.

Dr Henry Rzepa, Dept. Chemistry, Imperial College, LONDON SW7 2AY;
[e-mail] via Eudora 1.3, Tel:[phone], Fax:[phone].


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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 14:43:51 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Guy LOUIS)
Subject: Color and Hypercard (R)

In infomacv11-63, Richard Knowles wrote:

>I have Hypercard 2.1 and would like to use color in my stacks.  Is there an
>XCMD or something to do this?  Working in B/W is getting real old!
>Thanx in advance,

Hi Richard,

Yes, you can add color to HyperCard 2!

1) Card and Background color with a lot of XCMD's in a stack named
"Colorizing     HyperCard"; see Sumex in info-mac/card/x/colorize-112

2) Text color in fields with color fonts and one XCMD; see Sumex in
info-mac/card/color-text-package-11.hqx

Hope this will help!

Guy LOUIS

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Date: 24 Mar 1993 17:02:00 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Barry Markovitz, M.D. 454-6215" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Cricket Graph/HP Deskwriter crash!?

I've got a problem printing with Cricket Graph III on my HP Deskwriter that is
very curious.  On my IIvx with (System 7.1, 32 bit addressing on, VM on or
off)
HP's 3.1 driver and background printing on, printing a graph appears to
initially spool properly.  I then get a message box telling me to bring HP
Printmonitor to the front and the system promptly hangs completely.  Selecting
the old 2.2 HP driver allows me to print but the y axis label looks like 42
point font!!

No problem;  I copy the graph, paste it into Word 5.1, and crash;  the same
thing happens when trying to print it.  So I go back to Cricket Graph, save
the
graph as a PICT, insert it into Word with the Picture... command, and the same
thing happens.  Rebuild the desktop, reinstall the HP 3.1 driver, run Norton
and
Virex with no luck.  (I can print a Word 5.1 document with any other PICT
imported.)  So finally I import the PICT of the graph into Cricket Draw III,
export that as a PICT, insert the new PICT into Word, and it prints fine.
(Actually vertical text is a bit jagged, but I've come to accept that with the
Deskwriter).

As the man said, there must be an easier way.  Any insight would be
appreciated.


Barry Markovitz
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 20:03:47 -0500
From: Jay Becker <[e-mail]>
Subject: Cross-linked files

I'm running a IIvx with 8MB and VM. A recent routine check with Norton Disk
Doctor showed cross-linked files -- Desktop DF, a PageMaker document, and
"unknown file." I trashed both files and rebuilt the desktop. I'm still
getting "cross-linked files" messages, each time with "unknown file" and
something else. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.
Jay Becker
[e-mail]


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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 07:39:34 +0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: data thief and digigraph

datathief has an 'Autotrace' that traces the curve from a PICT.  I do not
think that digigraph has this capability.  I could, however, be misinformed
regarding digigraph.

Hope this helps.........
Michael Silverstein, Materials Engineering, Technion

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 15:15:04 EST
From: [e-mail] (2d Lt Avram Dorfman)
Subject: DiskCopy images vs. folders [R]

I read your question about making disk images from a folder. I am pretty
sure that there is no utility for it. There might be, but there is, almost by
definition, no reason for it: the only value of a disk image over a regular
archive (like a stuffit archive, or just a plain folder) is that the exact
sector layout of the original is maintained.

Since the sector layout of a folder on your harddrive is not relevant (or even
convertable) to a floppy, then the end result is no more useful than a drag
and dropped copy.

So far the only reason I have heard for having images at all is related to
self booting disks (e.g. system disks): When you mac boots, it has no
operating
system yet, so it doesn't know how to find things on disks. Rather than keep
a megabyte of system code in ROMs, they just have a specific place that OS
information is to be stored on a disk. Then your mac can just assume that if
the code isn't there, then it isn't on that disk at all.

This doesn't explain why you can make a system disk by dragging and dropping
system files - I suspect that the system is smart about itself, and does what
it can to make sure that when it is put on a disk, it is put in that special
place. This is just a hypothesis, though (time to dig up Inside Mac, I
guess..)

Disk images also do neet things like maintain the correct view, and icon
place-
ment, etc, of the original disk.

-Avram Dorfman ([e-mail])

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Date: 24 Mar 1993 14:24:43 +0000
From: [e-mail] (Alexei Tsvetkov)
Subject: Emailing software orders from Europe--UPDATE

Fergus Sullivan writes:

>The only addresses I've found are for Mac's Place ([e-mail] &
>>[e-mail]). To date I have received no reply from either. I
>>still am keen to get this thing to work as it ties in nicely with the
problem
>>of software being so overpriced in Europe (and indeed everywhere else
outside
>>North America). If we can bypass the local sales networks the buggers may
>start >paying more attention to their pricing policies.

The last time I tried this trick with Mac's Place my email was never
acknowledged, nor did they find my order when I called them later. From my
experience as a hostage here in Europe there is no way to deal with the US
mail order companies through email, except CI$ Electronic Mall. Do you hear
me, mail order moguls? Would you mind making a buck?

Alexei Tsvetkov
Munich

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 15:04:38 +0000
From: Graham Allsopp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Equipment advice

It's that time of year again when we can bid for new toys - er sorry!
equipment. I'd be very grateful if anyone can give me advice on two
particular areas:

Apple LaserWriter Pro 630 v HP LaserJet 4M

We currently have a LaserWriter IINT, which is now showing its age. Now
600dpi printers are an affordable price, we can think of getting one. We
are a Cartographic Unit, producing mainly black & white maps and diagrams
(like you see in newspapers), and so our output is a mixture of fine
linework, tones and text (which can range from 3 or 4 (ish) pt to 100's of
point). At 600dpi, hopefully some work can be used as camera-ready copy for
journals. The educational prices for both printers are pretty close, so
this is not a big issue. Our building, and nearly all its computers (mostly
PCs) are ethernetted - the ability for PC users to produce high-resolution
output may help justify the purchase. How easy is it (and how much more
does it cost) to make the HP Ethernet-compatible? Will all ports still be
active at the same time? Is it really that easy for Mac and PC users to
share the same printer (Apple or HP)? Most importantly - which printer
gives the better quality?

Kodak Photo-CD (and Professional Photo CD)

We are just getting our DTP knees wet. We got to the toe-dipping stage with
Ready Set Go!, but have just retired it after 3 years good service, and
bought XPress. Ideally, we would like to control as much production as
possible in-house - including colour work, and produce plate-ready copy.
The department has a well-equipped Photographic Unit with two able
photographers. Using Photo CD (or Professional Photo CD, as our
photographers tend to use larger than 35mm format whenever they can) seems
to be the way to go - any comments? Assuming we get the Apple CD300 and
Adobe PhotoShop, are the range of Imagesetters available to us in our area
(Agfa 9400, Linotronics 200, 300 & 500, with the Agfa being the prefered
machine) capable of producing good- quality film separations, or do we need
to go to Scitex standard? I can see that in a couple of years time, we
could be producing a fair amount of full-colour DTP work.

Many thanks for any help

Graham Allsopp, Cartographic Unit, Department of Geography, University of
Sheffield, UK.

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 09:21:47 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: European pricing

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> Caught some folks griping about VAT (value added tax) charged on
> European stuff.  Don't forget, people:  the prices you see listed in
> American mail-order listing are *WITHOUT* tax.  European taxes are
> indeed higher, but we in the USA still pay 7%-10%.

I'm not up on the latest legislation, but I don't believe that most
individuals pay sales tax on items ordered through the mail. I certainly
don't and there is a state sales tax in Washington State. That's one
reason people buy mail order - on large items the sales tax can get
a bit large, and it would through a dealer in your state. Here in
Washington many people drive down to Oregon to buy computers and the
like since Oregon has no sales tax, whereas Washington has a sales
tax, but no income tax.

cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 12:06:27 PST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: FaxSTF - Powerbook problem

I'm the proud owner recently of a slightly used PB170 4/40 with
Apple's internal FAX modem.  The unit works well enough with Apple's
supplied software, but I'm looking for more features, and decided to
try FaxSTF v2.2.3 instead.

Problem is, though, that it can not/will not recognize the modem.

I used the install program, specifying the PowerBook modem, as well as
every other modem on the list, but the net result is the same.  I've
switched off every other extension, confirmed that the internal modem
is specified on the system software, and fiddled for hours with it,
but cannot get past the initial startup sequence where I'm informed
that the software couldn't find an "appropriate" modem.

If anyone else is using this combination, I'd sure like to hear from
you as to your method of success.


Eric

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 23:13:23 PST
From: [e-mail] (John Thoo)
Subject: Full Impact macro question


Howdy!  I'm trying to write a Full Impact macro that will assign
students' course grades by using *lots* of IF-ELSE statements, e.g.

  If (90<=Cell(1,row))
   {
   Align("center",Cell(2,row):="A")
   }
  Else
   {
   If


and so on.  My problem is that everything is fine up through the 7th
IF statement, but I get a syntax error when I insert the (identical)
8th IF statement.  With all the plus-minus grades, I need 13 IF
statements.  How do I do this?  Is there a more elegant way of writing
this macro?  This is my first attempt at writing a FImpact macro, not
to mention that I don't know any programming languages to boot.  Any
help would be appreciated as I can't jolly well ring Ashton-Tate's
tech support, and I don't think Borland is going to be of any assistance.

Thanks much.
--John.
J. B. THOO, Math Dept, Univ of California, Davis <[e-mail]>

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 11:38:56 PST
From: [e-mail] (Bill Colston)
Subject: Gopher Address for Info-Mac Archives

Could someone please post the Gopher address for the Info-Mac
Archive. I use gopher.archive.merit.net for mac.archive.umich.edu.
What would I use to reach SUMEX via gopher?

Many Thanks for the assistance.

Bill Colston

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Date: 24 Mar 1993 09:03:34 +0100 (MET)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: How long will Apple still offer the IIci->Q700 upgrade (Q)

Hi Netters,

I'm owner of a Mac IIci which I appreciate very much. Originally I intended to
later upgrade the mashine to a Quadra 700. Now Apple has presented the new
mashines in Germany and the Q700 seems to be a dead end. Does anybody know

1. how long Apple will still hold the Q700 upgrade kit for the IIci in program
(I intended not to upgrade before autumn 1993)

2. whether there will be any other solution provided by Apple for the
thousands
of IIcx/ci users to actualize their mashines to a -let's say Centris 650
standard or higher.

Thanks for hints

Jens Eickhoff
([e-mail])

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 19:39:15 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: How to make robotic voice? (Q)

Denizens of the Netterworld,

I have a Centris 610 with a microphone.  Is there some public domain
software that would allow me to manipulate the wave form of my own
voice to produce a metallic, robot sound?  If so, any hints as to
the procedure would be appreicated.

David Van Nuys
Psychology Dept.
Sonoma State University

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 09:47 CST
From: "Mark Dohm, UW-P Information Technology" <[e-mail]>
Subject: HP4M v LaserWriter 630 (again-Q)

Greetings,

I figured with all this talk between the LaserWriter 630 and HP4M, I couldn't
remain silent.

We have a department that is struggling to decide which printer to get. The
printer would be used in an office environment of mostly macs and a few PCs
all
running on a Novell network. Basically, we are down to three questions.  What
advantage does PCL5 give over PCL4+ (for the PCs)?  What are the speed
differences at 300 DPI (we will be running the printers at 300 DPI).  Will
auto-emulation switching be a problem with the 630 (will Novell be able to
solve those problems)?  (Everything on Ethernet)

If anyone can help, please respond. If you need more details, just ask - I'll
try my best.

Thanks a bunch.      !MarkMAD!   (Mark Dohm)
[e-mail]   U/Wisconsin-Platteville   8^)

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 10:28:17 PST
From: [e-mail] (Gary Sager)
Subject: HP 550C / Frame Font Problems (Q)

Some (in fact, most) fonts seem to behave badly when I print to my HP
550C using Frame.  The same (bit for bit) Frame files print fine on my
Sparcstation (postscript version of fonts).  The problem appears as
"em" or wider spaces between certain character combinations - but not
consistently.  For example, Palatino sometimes prints "three" and a few
lines later "thr ee".  The appearance on the screen is fine, however.

Can anyone tell me what the problem is and how to fix it?

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 11:28:39 CST
From: sga![e-mail]
Subject: HP LaserJet 4M vs. Apple LaserWriter Pro 600/630

> Gary Rodman asked about how the Hewlett-Packard LaserJet 4M stacks up
> against the Apple LaserWriter Pro 600 and 630.  I just finished an
> evaluation of the two for our Office of University Computing, so here's
> some excerpts from my report:
>
> For NETWORKABILITY (yes, that *is* a word), the Apple comes with an Apple
> ethernet jack, which means you must purchase an Asante FriendlyNet or
> similar connector for about $80, or you can use the on-board LocalTalk.
> The HP comes with a LocalTalk board installed, or you can purchase an
> ethernet board for $450.  Both can do PCL/PS switching on the fly.

If PCL/PS auto-switching is an important to you it would be worth
double-checking that the Apple models can do it.  I just chose the HP
over the Apples because in my research I read that the Apple models
could emulate PCL but not do auto-switching.  Sorry, I can't remember
the source of that information.  I am pleased with the HP so far.

-- Doug Smith * Wheaton, IL * [e-mail]                   --
-- AppleLink: G0231 * AOL: DougLSmith * CompuServe: 72727,3532 --

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 14:19:33 EST
From: Dr. G.P. Savage <[e-mail]>
Subject: icon lock and resize (Q)

I seem to remember a discussion sometime ago about ways to "lock" hard disk
icons where you left them from one restart to the next. Does anybody know how
to do this?

Also, with all the drag-n-drop applications littering my desktop is there a
way
to make just the names appear (ie. with no icon) or reduce the icon size? I
also remember seeing this discussed but at the time I thought that there would
be no way I'd have that many utilities to bother about. I suppose another
monitor would solve the problem :-)

Paul.

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 02:44:21 EST
From: Allan Hunter <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #64

Waaah, it's such a drag to feel virtually obsolescent when what you got
was new as recently as 1988...oh well, there's all those Mac Plus users
who are even more beyond than I am with my SE 68000 / System 6.08 world
and preference for MacWrite (not II, the old one) and SuperPaint 1.0...
Well, weird tho it may seem, I got a friend with a less mainstream than
Mac type computer, an Amiga, which does COOL things with graphix, and
it would be nice to be able to borrow her disks, cuz my Photoshop (1.07)
oh so conveniently is ready and willing to deal with "AMIGA/IFF" images
whenever it can get to them.  Those Amiga owners can buy a complete
Mac emulation package and read/write Mac disks; all I want is a bit of
Apple File Exchange and/or instructions to my SuperDrive or Infiniti
Floptical drive that will tell them how to read one of them Amiga disks.
Anyone got relevant info?  (If so, don't forget that my mind is still
fundamentally fonder of a world in which "Use Minifinder" is under the
"Special" menu and things are nice and SIMPLE).

- Allan Hunter
 <ahunter@sbcccvm> and /or <[e-mail]>

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 17:22:03 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Dwight Early)
Subject: InfoWorld Mac Bashing

Once again the press shows their ignorance!  Current issue of InfoWeek just
got into my inbasked.  Front page article titled "Windows Muscles in on Mac
DTP Turf" starts off bashing macintoshes.  Turning to page 22 you read
several more paragraphs before you start really getting to the "you get
what you pay for" real truth.  The hidden costs aren't even quantified.
Some factual reporting.

The sidebar graphics though is the real joke!  Taking a Gateway 2000
486/DX-66 and comparing it to a Quadra 900 by just adding 17in monitors
(for $1285) to sho how inexpensive MesSyDOS systems running windows ($4300
vs $5200) just doesn't cut it.

Read it...let's debate it...and can someone more elocquent than myself
raise the bs flag with InfoWeak?!

--Dwight

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 18:49:00 PST
From: [e-mail] (John Thoo)
Subject: Large text files (C)


On Tue, 23 Mar 93 Jaime Garmendia <[e-mail]> said:
> >>Having accquired several very large text files lately that i need to
> >>peruse (but not edit), i've run into a few problems. To wit, _no_ text
> >>processor wants to handle a megabyte long file. Not wanting to split the
> >>files up (they're alamanac and encyclopedia type references dowloaded from
> >>a Unix mainframe) is there any convenient way to browse them on the Mac?
> >>Ideally there'd be something like "more" but i have a hunch that i may
> >>have a programming task on my hands ...
> >>p-m
>
> Have you tried McSink or its commercial sibling Vantage? I can open
> very large files with ease. I would be surprised if there wasn't a
> text browser that fit your requirements. I believe there is one in
> SUMEX called Quill DA that could do.

I recommend Pete Keleher's excellent Alpha 5.31 (look in /info-mac/app).
I believe that it'll open files as large as you have memory, and it has
lots of goodies (IMHO) to boot!

--John.
J. B. THOO, Math Dept, Univ of California, Davis <[e-mail]>

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 22:49 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <[e-mail]>
Subject: Laserwriter flashing light error codes

When Apple laserwriters develop certain faults, I believe the indicator
lights flash in particular sequences depending on the problem.  Where can
one find a list of such sequences and their meanings?

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Date: Wednesday, 24 Mar 1993 08:05:16 EST
From: [e-mail] (Laurie Hooper)
Subject: Mac Fax/Modems

I am looking for information on Mac fax/modems.  Data transfer rates and data
compression rates are important factors as well as prices.  Right now I don't
have a dollar figure in mind--I'm just gathering info.  If you have any
recommendations for a good fax/modem, please send it to [e-mail].
Thank you.
*
*        Laurie

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Date: 24 Mar 1993 08:17:34 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Derek Butcher)
Subject: Maps on CD Rom

There are a couple of CD ROMs for PCs that display street-level maps of
various cities in the US. Are any of these available for the Mac? I looked
through my Educorp catalogue and other CD places and couldn't find anything.

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 04:04:12 GMT
From: [e-mail] (p-m agapow)
Subject: More and more for Mac ...

In response to my recent request for a "more" for the Mac, i've been
inundated with replies. Thanks to all who replied and my apologies for not
replying personally. In lieu of that and in response to a request i'll
summarise the results :

Essentially i was looking for a file-viewer in order to examine megabyte
level plain text files. Editing capability is irrelevant. The answer i
recieved can be grouped thus ...

* Use MPW shell. Quite a popular option, although admittedly you have to
have MPW. Although the editor isn't great, this doesn't matter if you just
want to view the file.

* Use Word 5.1. Having not used Word 5 (only 4) i can't speak for this. It
was claimed by two respondants that Word should handle practically any
sized file without difficulty. Of course you have to allocate the
appropriate amount of memory ... other respondants claimed that Words
performance would be suboptimal.

* Use BBedit. Apparently BB will use the free memory of your machine to
handle the file (which would be handy, not having to increase the
application memory).

* "Any word processor should be able to handle it given enough memory".
Although i haven't exhaustively tried every editor, i can vouch that
Nisus, the various MacWrites, WordPerfect, Alpha and a number of others
will just refuse to open a megabyte size file or do so with excruiating
slowness regardless of the amount of memeory you allocate to them. Others
experience may be different.

At the moment BBedit looks the best. Ideally a text viewer that has only a
small memory footprint regardless of the size of the file would be the
best but i've put that on the input queue ... :^)

Thanks again to the respondants :

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

and numerous others whose mail i deleted before recording their names ...

p-m

paul-michael agapow ([e-mail]) Machine Intelligence Lab, LaTrobe
Uni

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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 16:11:27 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Karl Pottie)
Subject: Murph's vaporware revisited ?

Murphs vaporware column will be gone forever. But isn't there anybody on
the internet who would take over the task of collecting and distributing
vaporware rumors ? If only I had *more* time, I'd volunteer.

[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 22:29:40 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: New Word Game

To those of you who who have been asking about word games, Word Connection is
soon to be released.  However it needs a little more testing from a few
interested souls...

Word Connection is a thought provoking word search game designed for
children and adults.  3 shapes x 3 sizes = 9 puzzle boards.  Endless
puzzle combinations and a wide range of difficulty levels will
challenge your mind, polish spelling skills and introduce new words.
The game also includes hints, solutions and definitions.  Minimum system
required is a Mac Plus and System 6.0.7.

Although countless hours have already been spent testing Word Connection, it
would be nice to have a larger audience to do a little more testing.  Any
volunteers?  No experience necessary!  You will be asked to complete and
return
a questionnaire about the game within a week of receiving test materials.

If you are interested in testing, please respond with your name, mailing
address and phone number.  Please send your email directly to me instead of
responding here.  My email address is [e-mail].  If
you would prefer, you can call Action Software at [phone].  I will
post another message after getting desired number of beta testers.

Daniel

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 21:35:15 PST
From: [e-mail] (Gregory Main)
Subject: PMI

Pardon my ignorance, but what does 'IMHO' mean?

[IMHO = In My Humble Opinion
 FAQ  = Frequently Asked Question
 RTFM = Read The Flippant Manual
 OBO  = Or Best Offer
 :-)  = Moof]

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 09:35:45 EST
From: John Lillibridge <[e-mail]>
Subject: PRAM Zapping in System 7.x (R)

In response to a recent query on how to Zap the Mac's PRAM, I found the
following tips in my Drive7 manual:

    1) Always reset the PRAM from a "cold" start, not a "Restart"
    2) Under System 7, hold down these four keys when you boot the Mac:
       Command, Option, P, R.  The Mac will blink and restart itself,
       release the keys.
    3) Under System 6, allow the Mac to boot to the Desktop.  Hold down
       the Command, Shift, and Option keys while you select the Control
       Panel from the Apple Menu.  When asked if you want to Zap the PRAM,
       answer "Yes".

John Lillibridge ([e-mail])

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Date: 24 Mar 1993 15:04:33 -0500 (EST)
From: "Mark Nutter, Apple Support" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Pro-cite -> other database?

A staff member on campus has a bunch of data in a Pro-Cite database, and wants
to move it all into ClarisWorks (I have no idea why).  I can do this with
CanOpener and a bit of brute force, but does anyone know an easier way?
Thanks.

Mark Nutter
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 04:01:23 -0500
From: Bob Kerns <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sales tax.

    Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 18:04:56 CST
    From: bq Mackintosh <[e-mail]>

    Caught some folks griping about VAT (value added tax) charged on
    European stuff.  Don't forget, people:  the prices you see listed in
    American mail-order listing are *WITHOUT* tax.  European taxes are
    indeed higher, but we in the USA still pay 7%-10%.

Maybe SOME of you do. I don't think I've seen higher than 7%
anywhere in the country, myself.  Next door in New Hampshire,
the rate is 0%.  That happens to be where Mac Connection is.
Here in Massachusetts, which was widely ridiculed as "Taxachusetts"
a while back, it's only 5%.

I think the theory of VAT is that they tax it when it goes out,
rather than when you get it.  (I couldn't say whether it actually
displaces any income tax, however; I haven't seen national breakdowns
by TYPE of tax).  But we Americans shouldn't assume (without further
information) that a higher VAT means that prices are higher, since
the overall tax structure is very different.  Comparisons like
this are difficult.

I think the people who are subtracting off the VAT and quoting it
separately (which most people seem to be doing) are doing
the right thing.  Compare the prices without taxes, and evaluate
the taxes seperately.

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Date: 24 Mar 93 19:39:56 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Steven L. Armentrout)
Subject: Simulation software sought

I'm seeking software to assist in the creation of simulations of various
physical phenomena in which the speed of objects, their relative distances
>From one another, etc must all be to scale.  Furthermore, the simulations
need to appear realistic (read flashy).  I've used Director 1.x, but
while this product has many nice features for developing simulations, it
lacks a means through which the exactness I require can be realized.
I would appreciate suggestions for products which may suit my needs.  I
don't regularly read this newsgroup, so please email me directly at
[e-mail]

Thanks in advance,
Steve

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 16:38:04 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Stolen serial numbers...

> You know, it would be both a great public service, and excellent
> PR with enforcement agencies which often seem to have serious
> misunderstandings of computers, networks, BBS's, and the like,
> for there to be a central list of serial numbers of stolen items
> that people could check.

It's an interesting concept, and one that might work well if there
was a department that studied this sort of thing and could spare a
grad student and an account on a workstation somewhere. Neat thought
- any takers?

cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 10:09:34 GMT
From: John McKinley <[e-mail]>
Subject: SuperPaint & 68040 caches

Is it just me, or is the TIFF import module in SuperPaint 3.0 incompatible
with the 68040 caches? When I select that menu item my Centris 610 crashes
right away if the caches are on, but not otherwise. There are _no_ inits on
this machine - I have just begun setting up the machine for a student.

This of course means that I will have to hand it over at some point. :-(

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 20:09:35 EST
From: Sunil Hazari <[e-mail]>
Subject: supress header

Is it possible to supress headers on certain pages using MS-Word
4.0. I checked the Word manual but it does not have any
information on supressing headers or footers.

Any help will be appreciated.

Sunil Hazari
East Carolina University
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 15:48 CST
From: "Mark Dohm, UW-P Information Technology" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sys 6.08L location

Greetings,  In response to Peter Kay's Question about the location of
System 6.0.8L:

This is the message that appeared in January digest (V11 #4):

 -----------------------------
 Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 08:48:33 EST
From: [e-mail] (Daniel E. White  (F2C))
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #4 (System 6.0.8L)

Archie sez:

Host wuarchive.wustl.edu

    Location:
    /mirrors2/rascal.ics.utexas.edu/support-of-products/Apple/sys.soft
       FILE -r--r--r--     710784  Oct 22 00:44  6.0.8L.additions.sit.bin
       FILE -r--r--r--     758656  Oct 22 00:44  6.0.8L.startup.sit.bin

... and I've tried it on my Classic II.  It does work, but when you boot up
the System 6, it rebuilds your desktop (which is then re-rebuilt when you
boot up in 7 again).  That was my only annoyance.  I'm not sure what I'll need
it
for, but I got it and saved it onto floppies -- each archive expands to fill
a 1.4M floppy, but the folks that need to use it will have a SuperDrive.

   Share & Enjoy !!
 ---------------------

 I hope this helps!

8^)  !MarkMAD!  (Mark Dohm)
University of Wisconsin-Platteville.

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 10:41:42 -0100
From: Peter Kay <[e-mail]>
Subject: System 6.0.8L

Further to my recent request for the whereabouts of System 6.0.8L
(System 6 for Macs which can normally only use 7), I had one reply
(thanks, Ray) which suggested that 6.0.8L may have only been released
in Japan and Canada (???) but he was unable to find it, and another
reply (thanks, Chris) which stated that 6.0.8L was seen on
rascal.ics.utexas.edu. I searched there without success.

It looks as though 6.0.8L is a "phantom" system.

Peter Kay, University of Hertfordshire

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 09:10:09 PST
From: Dave Leiner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Toshiba 3201 CD-ROM

For those of us who were unfortunate enough to choose Toshiba as our CD-ROM
drive vendor, Toshiba tells us we are out of luck if we have a 3201 mechanism
and want even single-session Photo-CD compatibility. This mechanism is one of
the very few drive which cannot (or will not) be upgraded with software to
provide this capability. Toshiba offers no reason for this and does not plan
to
offer a trade-in such as the one recently announced by NEC. CD Technology, who
packaged the mechanism as the CD Porta-Drive, is also no help. I'm still
hoping
that CD-ROM Toolkit by FWB will solve the problem (they say they are working
on
it), but so far they have not included the 3201 in the product. I, for one,
will think long and hard before considering another Toshiba product. Comments
or other info?

--Dave

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 16:44:50 GMT
From: Mr Gordon S Byron <[e-mail]>
Subject: Voice Navigator

I have some students here who want to find out about voice Navigator
and similar products for an assignment. could anybody who knows about
such products, what they are for and how they have been promoted reply
directly to me
thanks
gordon

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 19:40:18 -0600 (CST)
From: "Francis J. Van Wetering" <[e-mail]>
Subject: WordFinder fix for 4.0

This was a looooooong time ago, but I remember reading (and executing) a
patch for WordFinder to make it work with MS-Word 4.0.  I have since
dumped the text file explaining how to do it, and now a colleague of mine
would like to have the same capabilities.  Can anyone help me out?

F. J.  Van Wetering, Ph.D.     INTERNET: [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 08:02:34 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Zapping PRAM in system 7

To Zap the PRAM in system 7 restart you mac while holding down the COMMAND,
OPTION, P
and R keys.  The Mac will reboot and then reboot again, at this point the PRAM
will
have been zapped.  You may need a friend to help you do this unless you have
very
big hands.

Lisa Besko
MSU/NSCL

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 07:41:31 +0200
From: [e-mail]

Can I hear more about the LaserWriter IIg upgrade, i.e. was there any other
improvement besides the installation of Dingbats?

Thanks,
Michael Silverstein, Materials Engineering, Technion

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 11:08:43 EST
From: Systemes informatiques repartis <[e-mail]>

Hi Netters !

I'm looking for a software named Cameo. It's made on hypercard and I don't
know
who's selling it. If you know where I can get a demo version or if you have
any information about this product, please answer me.

Remy Beaumont
Universite Laval
Quebec, Canada

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 14:33:52 EST
From: [e-mail]

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest
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From: [e-mail] (Ravinder Chandhok)
Subject: Re: file back up . . . sort of
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In V11 #63 Adam Zucker asks:

>I am looking for a utility program (for my LC II) which would update a
>limited number of floppy disks whose contents are also stored on my hard
>drive.  So, as I change and update and work with the files on my HD, the
>utility would update the same files on a floppy.  Is there anything out
>there that does this? If so what does it best?
>
>E-mail replies appreciated.  Thanks in advance, Adam
><[e-mail]>

A newly released file synchronization utility called FileRunner(tm) would do
what you what, I think.  FileRunner would even let you edit the copies on
the floppies if you want to, alternatively it can compress the files on the
floppies so you can pack more on.  And FileRunner is licensed to the
individual, so that you only need one copy for managing *your* files (on any
number of CPUs).  There are FileRunner versions for both Mac and
DOS/Windows.

For more info, call the company, MBS Technologies,  Inc., at 800-860-8700.
You can also send email to [e-mail]

MBS Technologies also happens to be in Pittsburgh, which is where you are.
Small world!

IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER: I wrote the Mac version in my copious spare time.  So
I may be a little biased :-)

--
Ravinder (Rob) Chandhok              Internet : [e-mail]
Carnegie Mellon University           AppleLink: A14

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